HIV Test: surat pengesahan doktor

baru je balik from klinik kesihatan shah alam
with mon prince charmant, we went there in order to ask them to fill up the JAHEAIK form

first, we went to the information counter:

makcik yg jage counter tu tercengang bile tgk slip hiv test kami..dia tanye, awat takde cop negative..and i said i dunt know, i just want a doctor to fill this form. she said, i dunt need to see a doctor, just go to the room 13 and ask a person in that room to sign.dia siap ckp "ni mesti kes diorang terlupe nak cop "negative" "...iyo lah sgt mokcik oiii

so we went to room 13:

the person in charge said there is no need to fill the form..it's gov policy to not put the result anywhere..yada yada yada..
but i insisted him that i need this form, otherwise i cudnt submit my nikah form (hehhe kelentong aje..janji i dpt ape yg i nak)
after penat bertekak..then he said he cudnt sign it because he's not pengamal perbuatan kerajaan as requested in the form
dlm ati i kate , heloooooo yg u sign borang hiv test i tu boleh la pulak..bbluuurrrreeeghhhh

then we went back to information counter, utk amik angka giliran. but makcik kat situ tak puas ati, dia ckp dia akan sendiri jumpe ngan orang dlm bilik 13. so we waited for 15 mins,
and she gave me the same info as that i already had "it is the gov policy to not reveal the result yada yada yada"
so she kindly asked us to register..and we did

once our number was up, we went to registration counter:
makcik kat situ tanye i sakit ape..and dgn sabarnye i said, takde sakit just nak jumpe dr utk dapatkan pengesahan result hiv test..makcik tu hairan plak kenape, takde cop ke ckp negative or positive? and i said no..ade plak nurse kat sebelah dia sibuk explain mmg takde cop dah skang and another yada yada yada
and dgn tak sabarnye i said, i have to get this pengesahan, otherwise tak bleh submit my nikah form (another kelentong..ape i pedulik..malas nak layan karenah diorang)
after beberapa mins berbalas ckp, she asked me to pay rm 1 and wait in front of room 8.

room 8:
once we were called, we entered the room, and kindly explained to the doctor our prob. as expected, she was surprised as well..and the Q "eh tade cop negative ke" became a common question for us..so once again, i explained to her about "the gov policy" and the JAHEAIK requirement, but she didnt buy it. so she went to check with the guy from room 13 (back to square one...sighhhhh)

after a while, she came back and said, ok it's the gov policy yada yada yada (seriously, i was getting annoyed with this sentence) and normally all the jabatan agama islam di seluruh malaysia is aware about this ( i wish they cud..but my dear, i already called JAHEAIK and this is their requirement..i dunt care ape itu gov policy ke ape..i just care about kebenaran bernikah dari JAHEAIK sahaja...i just wanna get married!! sobbing)

however she said she can sign the form (yeay),but i had to go back to room 13 to ask the person in that room utk cop kat kad kesihatan kami berdua and came back to room 8. (duhhhhhhhh)

at last, we have slip hiv test dan jugak borang pemohonan ujian saringan hiv dr JAHEAIK yg sudah siap diisi.

total time wasted: 2 HOURS!!

p/s: i tak tau lansung about this policy, and i tak tau if all jabatan agama, jurunikah, tok kadi or tok imam are aware about this. klu tak, macam mane nanti?dapat tak kebenaran bernikah? dah le mase akad nikah tu, tok imam dah ckp dia nak tgk original slip hiv test..and if he doesnt know about this policy..nak tak dia nikahkan kami nanti? (dunt bother to think about this, otherwise korang panik macam i jugak nanti..hahahaa)

so bile i called JAHEAIK..they said they want to see negative/positive, reactive/non-reactive on the slip or borang, then i just follow, because diorang yg uruskan pasal borang nikah nanti, kasi kebenaran kawin ke idak..

utk b2bs dr kltn, do kindly ask the details dr tok imam tempat awak or JAHEAIK before awak buat hiv test..maybe by time, sume org dah aware pasal the new policy, so tak payah awak susah2 macam saya =)

HIV Test: khas utk b2b kltn

okie..in my previous post, missbutterfly asked about that validation of the hiv test..and macam sy, dia pon confused jugak about the procedure..apparently, the procedures are not the same for each state..and i remembered myy bff ade ckp her hubby kne letak offer letter for his current job utk mengesahkan yg dia bermastautin di selangor, so dio boleh buat test di klinik kesihatan di sgor, otherwise kne balik kltn n buat test..but this was 3 years ago.

but frankly, i sendirik tak tau btol ke tak..tp pegi gamble je buat kat klinik kesihatan kat shah alam..till jaja tanye about this test kat comment..as i tanak ade prob mase nak akad nikah, so the best way is to call JAHEAIK itself.

and this fine lady told me well, u can do the test at any klinik kesihatan kerajaan, use any borang that u want, as long as it is stated that the result is negative/positive, which is not in my case :(

i explained to her that it's the gov policy where the result is no longer indicated on the form, but she insisted it is a must, otherwise i might face some prob in submitting my nikah form..aiyooooooo

but she kindly faxed to me the form from JAHEAIK for hiv test, so that i can go back to the klinik and asked the doctor to fill it up and tick negative or positive. ::sighhhhh::

harap2 doktor kat klinik tak manyak songeh sgt utk isi borang tu ::sighhhhhh::

last resort, bile balik kltn mase puasa nanti, pegi buat test kat sane..confirm takde masalah dah.

info: according to JAHEAIK, ujian hiv test mesti dilakukan seawal-awalnya 3 bulan sebelum tarikh nikah, kalau tidak, tidak sah.

HIV Test

isnin lepas, both of us amik cuti and pegi buat HIV test kat klinik komuniti shah alam.
kat sini tak payah buat appointment, but u have to come at 2 pm sharp!!
if dtg awal, even 5 mins early pon, mmg tak dapat nak register utk amik test.
seriously i dunt know why, but pakcik yg jage kaunter smlm mmg made fun of all the bakal pengantin la. tepat kol dua, dia kuarkan borang yg dah ready ngan angka giliran..and all the pengantin of course la terkam kat meja kaunter kan...sronot pakcik tu gelak2 tgk ramai2 org Q utk amik borang tu..eeeii sekali tgk rase meluat pon ade.

well the test didnt take too long..lame pon sebab nak tunggu makcik tu key in the data dlm computer utk registration. then pegi ke kaunter 13 utk buat ujian.
i tot dia akan amik darah kat lipatan siku as usual, so awal2 lg i dah lipat lengan baju ke siku..
skali dia cucuk kat hujung jari je..hahhahha..and auuuuwwww it hurt!
i was called before mon prince charmant, so when i went out from the room, he kept asking, sakit tak?manyak tak dia amik darah?hihihihihi..panik plak my fiançé nih :p

tunggu tak sampai 10 mins, kitorang di panggil balik utk dapatkan result..well it's negative of course, tp it wasnt written negative anywhere on the paper..we just got back the borang yg kitorang isi, dan pengesahan yg mengatakan kitorang dah buat hiv test. and we were told verbally that's negative. errrrr...pelik, but that's the procedure, according to the nurse. harap it's the same for any gov hospital/clinic. nanti tak pepasal2 kang kami tak dapat kawen, sbb tok imam tanak nikahkan kitorang sbb tak tahu status hiv test kitorang. errr mintak simpang!

btw, both of us wanted to do the thalassemia test as well..as it is recommended by our gov
as far as we know, we dont have any thalassemia history in our family, but who knows kan..so buat la jugak....so kne register balik kat kaunter pendaftaran

after a while, we were called utk jumpe doktor secara berasingan.. well, the doctor that i met mcm kelakar sket. dia tanye sakit ape, i said nak buat ujian thalassemia..dia tanye ade ke dlm fam yg ade penyakit thalassemia, i said no, then she asked kenape nak buat test ni. then she gave me a brief lecture about thalassemia , iaitu penyakit genetik sel darah merah yada yada yada. i just said, it's recommended by our gov to do the test before getting married.

then she asked again, if i already did the hiv test, and i said yes and showed the borang. and right there, she stared at my borang for a couple of while, she was a bit blur, i must say. then she asked again, resultnye mane..and i said, itu lah resultnye, nurse ckp negative. dia macam tak percaya and called the nurse. after a couple of nods, she hang up and apologized. dia ckp, zaman dia nak kawen dulu, ado cop negative ke idak, tp apparently skang gov nak rahsiakan result tu, so if sesape dapat balik borang yg diisi with pengesahan mengatakan tuan empunya dah amik test, then it's negative. ok doc!

then she asked me to go to room 13 utk amik darah..and this time, mmg amik darah kat lipatan siku for one tube. and it didnt hurt! :) i showed the tube to my fiançé when he waited for his turn, and dia buat muke panik lagik..hihihihi

send the tube to the lab, waited for the result, once it was done, went back to doctor's room for her comment. well, both of us dunt have thalassemia as well.

at 4 we were done. we stopped at Petronas because my charming fiançé wanted to buy air milo. He said a tube of blood was taken from his body, thus he needed something to replace it back. and he came back with 2 kotak air milo and a couple of chocs. hahaha he's so cute and funny! Love ya.


next direction was LH Creative, Jalan Pudu. will post about it in my next entry.

Dokumen nikah

on the way to my opis this morning..my pa called, nak ckp pasal dokumen2 yg diperlukan utk nikah
as i was still driving..he asked me to call him back..hihi
baeknye ayah saya..sgt prihatin..tak kasi anak dia ckp tepon ketika memandu
and sure dia pelik kenape dah dekat kol 9 tp si anaknye tak sampai2 opis lagi
well blame org2 yg suke slow down n perati kereta2 yg accident..
tak pepasal jam panjang gile kat depan uniten...grrrrr

anyway..he called me sbb nak ckp dokumen ape yg nak kne anta kat tok imam utk nikah
seriously, i tak tau lansung about the procedure kat kltn
as i pegi kursus kahwin kat s'gor
apparrently, kt kltn tak payah pegi ke pejabat agama
just setelkan ngan tok imam..betul ke? any b2bs dr kelate bleh confirm?

according to my papa, utk dokumen nikah, selain dari borang, kena sertakan skali:

1. sijil kursus- 2 salinan setiap seorang
2. ic - 2 salinan setiap seorang
3. hiv test - 2 salinan setiap seorang
4. kebenaran berkahwin di luar mukin dr pihak lelaki

and mase nikah nanti, kena sediakan:

1. gambar - 2 keping setiap seorang, and pengantin lelaki di kehendaki bersongkok di dlm gambar
2. hiv test yg original

tu yg tok imam kampung sy mintak la..tak tau la tok imam tempat lain macam mane
and ayah sy terlupe nak tanye if tok imam setuju tak akad pakai dinar emas..
hopefully dia setuju la..klu tak pening sy nanti..ari tu pon dah ade org dok2 tanye berape wang hantaran sy..n dgn selumber badak sy ckp, sy tak tau..muhahhaha..nasib le..know less is better, sy just nak selamatkan makcik2 dr dok mengumpat pasal duit hantaran sy..kang tak pepasall makcik2 jugak yg dpt dosa =)

cume yg sy kurang pasti is, mengenai hiv test. i know we shud do the test kat hospital kerajaan, result dr hospital/klinik swasta tidak diterima..but can i do it here?or i shud go back to kltn to do the test? kindly advice, thanks

yg penting..tok imam setuju nikahkan kami pd hari raya kedua..hooorrrraaaaayyyyyy!